A few weeks back, I was on the “Testing Show” podcast, discussing testability with Matt Heusser and Michael Larsen. Michael and I have a shared fondness for discussing testability issues.

How could you not?

Testability is not just a giant matter all by itself. It has code, architecture, and design implications. But when you look at code and system testability, you can also learn a lot about how people perceive their rolls in the entire organization, and how it functions.

It can really take you that far in understanding what to improve and where. And there’s so much you can improve.

You can listen to the recording here.

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